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BOOK YOUR FREE STRATEGY SESSION NOW >>Can a helicopter rescue pilot find the time to do trading?
Hmm, yes. Or rather, yes, if it's systematic trading.
Federico, one of our students who has made a +23% profit in two months, tells us his story.
History repeats itself. The ingredients are simple but effective for this combination of trading and a challenging job—no magic potions.
Just applying a scientific method and preferably a good amount of study, all spiced up with the excellent support of our coaches.
Would you like to know more about Federico's story and experience with Unger Academy®?
Then you should watch his interview.
Tune in now and find out more:
• The reasons that convinced him to choose Unger Academy®
• What helped him the most in our training program
• The secret behind his +23% in the last two months
• His advice for all aspiring traders
Enjoy the interview! 😉
Introduction
Chelsi
Hey everyone. We're pleased to be here today with Federico, one of our students, who’s here to share with us his story and experience with our training program here at the Unger Academy. Hi Federico, how are you?
Federico
Hi everyone, hello Chelsi. Well, very well. Thank you so much.
Chelsi
Good, good, and we're delighted that you're here with us today. First, we'd like to ask you to tell us a little bit about yourself, your job, and your daily activities.
What Federico does in life, his job, and his passions
Federico
Yeah, well, I’m a helicopter pilot. And well, I've done different jobs over the years. And for the last ten years, I’ve mainly worked in helicopter rescue services in Italy. Well, yesterday I was in Finland and will be in Sicily in a few days for additional training, so it’s a very dynamic job.
Chelsi
Wow, nice, and helicopter pilot, um, for privates or...?
Federico
No, helicopter rescue service, EMS (emergency medical services), for first aid.
Chelsi
Wow! Okay, that's a critical task. Right?...
Federico
Yes, in some cases, it's more than indispensable.
Where Federico's trading experience began
Chelsi
And what about your trading experience instead?
Federico
Well, let's say, in parallel with this activity, for at least five to six years, I started to take a little bit of interest in my personal finance. I started with a very basic understanding because I’d never studied economics or finance.
So, in the early years, I fixed the longer-term part, which was retirement with a supplemental fund, investments, and what you can have today that you didn't have before, which was independent advice. I didn't want to get into conflict of interest that often exists with banks. I wanted to be free to pursue my interests, not the ones that others suggested to me. And so, I set this part with a portfolio of ETFs that are, let's say, medium to long-term.
From that, I developed a little bit of a passion, and I started to be interested in trading in a more active way. So, I followed a couple of courses on multiday U.S. stocks trading and then also on intraday trading with, let's say, decent results. But what has slowed me down is that I have fixed working hours that I can't manage very well... I can have a set schedule only in limited periods, so I seldom have the peace of mind you need to trade, especially from a psychological perspective.
And so, I kept looking around until I found your training program, and I've started it, and it's going well. I mean, I'm very pleased with how it's going.
What problems he had before joining the Unger Academy
Chelsi
Good! And what were, I mean, what problems did you have before you joined our program?
Federico
Well, some of the problems I mentioned earlier, namely, the difficulties in reserving a precise amount of time to trade, especially when I needed to be available during the opening of the U.S. markets. But above all, there was the psychological aspect, the commitment, which was crucial.
In the sense that maybe some days it went well and other days it went bad because I was in a rush, had other thoughts on my mind and couldn't muster the necessary concentration. Also, as I found out later, you can dedicate to just one stock or one instrument at a time. While with systematic trading, you can trade on many markets and instruments, and you're also a bit freer because you can trade when you have time.
Chelsi
It opens your horizons a little...
Federico
Yes, and with diversification, you also stabilize the results a little bit.
Why he chose our program
Chelsi
Okay... And what made you choose our program over the other available options on the market?
Federico
Um, you know, it gave me a lot of confidence in the person, so, okay, I don't know him personally, but through the internet, YouTube, and so on... Andrea as a person and the results, which are the guarantee that it works here.
As I've seen in other courses and experiences, the discretionary part is challenging to teach because it depends so much on the individual's personal skills or the psychology and so on. On the other hand, I have seen that with a much more quantitative and scientific approach, which I also like, it’s relatively more straightforward to teach and repeat accurately because it’s more numerical and scientific.
What successes Federico has had after implementing the method
Chelsi
All right, all right. And after putting into practice what you've learned in the various modules of the program, what successes have you had?
Federico
Yes, let's say I'm a bit of a repeat student in that sense... I had already started the One Year Target program two years ago, but just because I couldn't spend enough time on it and there were quite a lot of things to learn, I went a bit slowly. However, that didn't discourage me, let's say, even though I progressed slowly.
Then your new coaching service was a little more tightly managed... I started it in September and had, let's say, enough experience in just one month. I went live immediately because I already had a bit of infrastructure from the activities I was already doing.
I was amazed because, okay, a little bit... it's not a matter of luck, but you need some consistency between the strategies you've put live and the short-term market trend. In the first month, it was almost 16... 15/16%, which amazed me. It also made me stay grounded because I didn't expect it to always be like that because it's impossible, even though you hope it to be continuous.
Indeed, there was a drawdown in the first two weeks after that. I don't remember the percentage, but it was relatively small, - 3/4%, and now it's two months, yes, two whole months, and I have a +23% return.
And all this with, let's say, nothing of my own yet. I still haven't put my strategies live, o any strategies I've learned to develop, but I traded with all the databases that the Academy provides, a few individual stocks, but a small percentage. Because not all of the capital, you know, is always deployed as margin, 5% more or less, but in variable moments, there are some individual stocks, but it doesn't have a significant impact. They are up in the last few months, but they don't affect the result.
Which aspect of the program helped him the most
Chelsi
Very good. Was there any aspect of our program that helped you achieve your results?
Federico
Yes, the fixed weekly appointments with a coach who gets in touch with you, sends you the exercises, checks them, and is available on social media and emails and so on... Of course, it took me longer during that time, but the tighter, more fixed deadlines definitely sped up a process I consider a serious activity... I mean, I was looking at it as an activity that can be a profession, that is, comparable to opening a business, for example, a commercial or investment company, and so on. And with that perspective, I might have taken it slower, but this push over the last few months has helped me a lot, and we'll see. Here I’m going a little more on my own now and moving on.
How his life has changed
Chelsi
Okay, thank you. How has your life changed? Not just economically but also in terms of awareness?
Federico
Well, I'm happy with this period, this program, and these last few months of live trading. It was just a bit so much up and down in the past. I was also a bit fresher and more inexperienced, so I just experienced all the mistakes of the trader's psychology.
So first, the euphoria for some time and then the increase in risk to try to recover, which is where most of the damage was done, and all of that tricks you a little bit in the discretionary approach, except maybe for a few people who have a different psychology.
Anyway, everything’s very positive, and I hope… well, not “hope”, because you know, the commitment has to be constant, the study and the dedication to always looking for new strategies and following the workings of the system that you have... of your infrastructure.
But in the future, let’s say, the goal in the long term, hopefully not too long, is that trading becomes my primary source of income. I don't have a plan right now, but I don't think it will become a full-time job in the future, either. It remains a parallel activity to my primary job, but I can still maintain it because I have shifts to do but the same time off days so that I can work in parallel.
And then, yeah, the job I’m doing was what I dreamed of as a kid, and I've struggled for 20 years to do it, pretty much anyway. So I'm not going to give it up. But if I can achieve the goal in the next few years that this activity overtakes my official main activity, then that would already be a great success.
Chelsi
Well, it looks like your historical track record is that of a person who can achieve their goals, so I have no doubt that you will succeed.
Federico
I’m determined, and I will do my best to make it happen.
His advice for those who would like to become traders
Chelsi
Thank you very much and finally, do you have any advice for people who are watching this interview and are considering signing up for the program?
Federico
To take this activity, this path seriously, that's it. If you’re able to come here, remain calm and rest assured that there are no better trainings, in terms of quality of teaching and mentoring, let's say, of how are you’re followed afterward or during the program.
But if you take this path seriously, let’s say, not like a gambler or someone who bets, let’s say, €500 and then hopes to be rich after a month. Yes, as I mentioned before, you have to look at it as an entrepreneurial activity in the sense that you have to invest because otherwise, you can't do anything. So, if you are convinced and determined, you must do it even if it requires an initial investment. And over time, if you put in the effort and the study, the results come, that's it.
So don't get discouraged at the first difficulties because it's not a NASA scientist thing anyway. Of course, it's also not 99% easy for everyone, so it takes a little bit of effort, computer use, and scientific thinking. But it's doable, definitely.
Chelsi
Oh yeah, I agree with you on that. So, I wish you to continue this success, which is very recent, but we will see it continue. And thank you so much for sharing your time with us. And I wish you...
Federico
Thank you.
Chelsi
...I wish you a nice day, too.
Federico
Thank you. Have a great day.
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